Wed. When I got there he took me into his office and with a twinkle in his eye said, "I've got a staff conference across the hall where the captains of the various divisions meet, I haven't told them anything about you, would you like to talk to them? I was temporarily stunned but decided why not. I might just as well indoctrinate the whole department as just one. So we went in and he introduced me in very general terms and I talked in very general terms for about 5 minutes before I revealed myself and then I had all the brass in the palm of my hand for 30 minutes. So this was some kind of a high point too. It always makes me kind of shiver to think of the changes of the last 7 or 8 years. Here I was talking to the whole top brass of a police department in a strange city 1000 miles from home and doing it as Virginia. 7 years ago I'd have died of fright revealing myself to some local patrolman on the beat. There must be some kind of progress being made.

Well then it was off to Portland for the last stop of the trip. I was picked up at the airport by the brother of Donna 37-B-4 FPE who was my much appreciated chauffer during my visit and at whose house I stayed. Thanks are also due to his lovely wife who not only took me in but had a whole Oregon gang in the next night. But on the night of my arrival I did a 2 hour show with one, Fenwick, a bearded, middle aged hippie type with whom I had a very good interview. Altho I was only on for 2 hours the program ran 3 and one of Donnas friends who listened to the last hour of it said that most of the calls coming in were related to my interview and that Fenwick did a pretty good job of explaining my point of view to the callers, so I guess my 2 hours were well spent.

Thursday was a hectic day as we had to get up at about 5 A.M. to take the wife to work and to be at the Dept. of Psychiatry of the U. of Oregon Medical School at 8 A.M. They had me 8:30 to 10 for what they call "Grand Rounds" of the Department which means the weekly seminar for faculty, interns, residents, and medical students. We had a real sharp interchange. At 11 I had to break it off temporarily to rush over to KGW to tape a 15 min. interview which covered things pretty well for so short a time and then back to the med. school again to see a filmed psychiatric interview between a doctor, a female impersonator and a butch lesbian. It was quite interesting but was naturally in sharp contrast to what I had presented earlier.

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